the sysadmins job is to ensure the security of the box and the network! What kind of retard statement is that?

Yes, better out of the box security would be nice, but as a sysadmin, shouldn't you be worrying about these things and keeping up with them?

If you are a sysadmin that doesn't pay attention to security and potential risks, then your box deserves to be hacked, crashed, etc. Either that or you should go back to windoze where everything is simplified for you and dumbed down to a 3rd grade level.

when i say you,I don't mean anyone specific, I mean people in general.

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