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The value of vulnerabilities
Jason Miller, 2006-03-07

There is value in finding vulnerabilities. Yet many people believe that a vulnerability doesn't exist until it is disclosed to the public. We know that vulnerabilities need to be disclosed, but what role do vendors have to make these issues public?

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The value of vulnerabilities 2006-03-07
Anonymous (4 replies)
Re: The value of vulnerabilities 2006-03-08
infamous41md
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Matthew Murphy (1 replies)
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The value of vulnerabilities 2006-03-08
Anonymous (1 replies)
Time = money

Finding exploits = time = money

For commercial applications there is no free lunch. I still have to see some commercial application developer come and give me a free unlimited copy of his product. So please give me a valid reason to pass free information to someone who will profit directly from my effort.

Here is what most "responsible" researchers do:
1 ) Find a vulnerability
2 ) Contact vendor
3 ) vendor patches
4 ) vendor profits
5 ) ??? profit for researcher ??? --> none

Here is how it should be (model 1):
1 ) Find bug
2 ) Contact vendor
3 ) vendor pays
4 ) vendor patches
5 ) everyone profits
6 ) vulnerability report gets disclosed or not, depending on the agreement reached with the vendor.

In case of step #3 of model #1 fails then the procedure should become this way:
1 ) Find vulnerability
2 ) Sell vulnerability information to the best bidder (if vendor did not care about his customers security why should you do?)
3 ) Profit for your time and effort.
4 ) You may contact vendor if you want. I personally would not waste my time doing that if method #1 has failed.

This model works perfectly. After all, if the vendor profits you should also get the money from your effort.



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The value of vulnerabilities 2006-03-08
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