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Vista's EULA Product Activation Worries
Mark Rasch, 2006-11-20

Mark Rasch looks at the license agreement for Windows Vista and how its product activation component, which can disable operation of the computer, may be like walking on thin ice.

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Vista's EULA Product Activation Worries 2006-11-21
FatHed (4 replies)
Re: Vista's EULA Product Activation Worries 2006-11-21
Anonymous (1 replies)
I won't argue about the wording of the new Vista licensing, or even the current shipping products. The only point I would raise is that similar wording is in most of the currently available retailed MS products and in the download EULAs from online products.
There are numerous articles online that discuss EULA enforcement:
It's harder to find Pro-EULA sites than anti-EULA sites on the net :)
http://www.microscum.com/mmpafaq/
http://www.eff.org/wp/eula.php
http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2006/10/blacksnow_docu
m.html
http://www.eff.org/IP/Emulation/Blizzard_v_bnetd/20040221_la
w_professor_brief.pdf

I do want to clarify some issues about the return policy.

Microsoft has a pretty open return policy for hardware and software purchased thru retailers, not OEMs in North America. 45 days no questions asked refund, plus 7$ for shipping.

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/productrefund/softwarr.asp

If you purchase something from Microsoft Online you also have return offerings.
https://om.one.microsoft.com/OPA/htmlpages/TandC.htm

On the back of older MS products is the Orange 30 Money Back Guarantee. I don't know if that is still on the retail boxes or not. But I'm pretty sure you can call the return info number and get clarification.
1-888-673-8624

Recently a gentleman in the UK obtained a refund on an OEM installed copy of XP. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/08/1358207
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/110706-dell-windows.ht
ml

If you don't want to install the Windows Geniune Adavantage (WGA) software you can still use Automatic update to install critical and security hotfixes:
http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=569
154&SiteID=25

The Windows Activation number also has an automated activation feature, if you wanted to avoid any link to yourself call from a payphone. You don't have to talk to anyone. Registering the software during activation does give you a way to reactivate the software if you loose your license key. You have some proof you are the original owner / licensee of the product.
Use one of the publicly available free email address if you like.

I'm not an MS employee. I do use a lot of their products. I have for almost two decades now. When I first started I had the same concerns that if I purchased the software and I didnt' like it I was screwed. When you are a poor college student, buying an O/S that costs more than a week's pay is a big deal. Heck even the $15 buck I pay for music is food money for a day. $60 bucks for a console game is a nice dinner out for me the wife and both kids. I can't return music, or movies opened, nor can I get refunds on most console games. But I know that I can always get my money back from MS if I ask right questions.


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Mac Leopard or Linux he he he 2006-11-21
Anonymous
Why none of this matters 2006-11-21
Jake (7 replies)
Re: Why none of this matters 2006-11-22
Anonymous
Re: Why none of this matters 2006-11-22
Mark D. Rasch (1 replies)
Re: Re: Why none of this matters 2006-11-28
Anonymous (2 replies)
fixed 2006-12-04
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Re: Why none of this matters 2006-11-22
Steve Bradley
Re: Wrong 2006-11-27
Anonymous
Vista's EULA Product Activation Worries 2006-11-22
Anonymous (1 replies)
Vista's EULA Product Activation Worries 2006-11-22
Jeffrey Harris
Your own product does this! 2006-11-22
Gordon Fecyk
Vista's EULA wrong direction 2006-11-22
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Vista's EULA Product Activation Worries 2006-11-22
Anonymous (1 replies)
Re: Vista's EULA Product Activation Worries 2006-11-24
Bob from Denver (1 replies)
What No-one Else Has Noticed 2006-11-24
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Just a taste of what's to come 2006-11-24
BaysideBas
if Vista is being used... 2006-11-25
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