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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker
David Banisar, 2001-12-17

Safety standards and civil liability made automobiles safe. It can work for software too.

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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-17
Sean, bremerton Wa (4 replies)
Re: Sean 2002-01-06
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2002-01-12
An old codger that used to be proud of his profession.
Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-17
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-17
Jesse (1 replies)
Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-17
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-18
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-18
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-18
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-18
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-19
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-18
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-19
Robert A. Matern
Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-18
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-19
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-18
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Save the Net, Sue a columnist 2001-12-19
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Save the Net, Sue a columnist 2001-12-31
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-19
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Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-19
Rob John (1 replies)
Legal Clarifications... 2001-12-19
BillReilly
This debate needs some clarifications, because I think most people basically agree on the same thing, but that the legal classifications are confusing people.

I'm pretty sure Dave didn't say that all coders should be liable for software bugs. He was complaining that developers can use licensing agreements to shield them from harm caused by bugs they were even aware of before the software was released. That isn't right.

In product liability, there are several different standards of fault. Strict liability, like many car manufacturers and food processors, can be liable even if they weren't aware at the time their product was defective. These usually require physical damage, or some other serious damage. Most software wouldn't come under this classification. However, coders sohuld be held liable for damage caused by intentional bugs, or material bugs they were aware of but chose not to fix in order to meet a commerical deadline, for example. Negligence standard is trickier. That would hold coders up to a reasonable standard and I think that would get very tricky, and could have the "chill affect" on development.

And remember, we're talking only about commercial software developers, not those who use open source or free software. Those who use those pieces agree to hold prior coders harmless.

So, given this clarification, it would be interesting to see where the differences actually lie in this argument.

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Sue Tim Burners Lee 2001-12-21
Anonymous
OS and App tools NOT ready for Prime time= lawsuit city! 2001-12-21
we are years away from having tools that coders can use safely (ex: SELinux and CycloneC)! (1 replies)
Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-29
Anonymous (1 replies)
Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2001-12-30
Sean Ackley <securityfocus@ackind.net>
Sue them ALL!!! 2001-12-31
JeffM (1 replies)
Get a brain... 2002-01-04
Matt Hargraves
Save the Net, Sue a Software Maker 2002-01-11
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