It's become a cat and mouse game. I quit hacking after 911 and the patriot act. The latest exploit which will eventialy lead to a fast spreading worm, took me all of 10 minutes to discover the file that was vulnerable and how to exploit it. I'm glad I'm in the "security" industry now. I'm all for a safer Internet. The focus now isn't on how infection occur, it's that there are too many vectors to expolit, regardless of the social engineering that most users bite on. It's not just attachments anymore.....It's a very bad neighborhod we all belong...and if any of correct my speeling ...you're too young to post -Spinweb

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