On Thursday, Aug 14, 2003, at 20:26 Europe/Helsinki, Mariusz Woloszyn
wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Stephen Clowater wrote:
>
>> Also, you can use chpax, and turn on a non-executable stack, and with
>> a small
> It's been proved many times that non-executable stack adds NO security
> at
> all.
> Every single class of vulnerabilities exploitable with executable stack
> can be also exploited with non-executable stack.

What he forgot to mention is that PAX and grsec also gives you
non-executable heap and randomized address bases to prevent
return-to-libc attacks. AFAIK all those combined do bring real security
against generic exploits.

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