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[PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 06 2003 08:59AM Wojciech Purczynski (cliph isec pl) (1 replies) RE: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 08 2003 04:52PM Alun Jones (alun texis com) (1 replies) Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 08 2003 07:03PM Nicholas Weaver (nweaver CS berkeley edu) (5 replies) Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 08 2003 08:32PM der Mouse (mouse Rodents Montreal QC CA) (1 replies) Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 10 2003 04:07AM Darren Reed (avalon caligula anu edu au) Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 08 2003 08:13PM Eugen Leitl (eugen leitl org) Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 08 2003 07:58PM Valdis Kletnieks vt edu Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 08 2003 07:46PM Rick Wash (rwash citi umich edu) (3 replies) Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 08 2003 10:31PM Aron Nimzovitch (bugout clouddancer com) Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 08 2003 08:10PM Doug Moen (doug moen bluecoat com) (1 replies) Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 08 2003 08:28PM Michal Zalewski (lcamtuf ghettot org) Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage Oct 08 2003 06:18PM Michal Zalewski (lcamtuf ghettot org) |
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wonder what you were doing spewing 6.5 gigabytes of incriminating data
around on a link with a minute of latency, just so you wouldn't have to
store it locally... Or perhaps you meant that you have a ~11 million mile
long reel of fiber in your basement?
Dave Heigl
erst-while troll and nay-sayer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Wash" <rwash (at) citi.umich (dot) edu [email concealed]>
To: "Nicholas Weaver" <nweaver (at) CS.berkeley (dot) edu [email concealed]>
Cc: "Alun Jones" <alun (at) texis (dot) com [email concealed]>; "'Wojciech Purczynski'" <cliph (at) isec (dot) pl [email concealed]>;
"'Michal Zalewski'" <lcamtuf (at) coredump (dot) cx [email concealed]>; <bugtraq (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]>;
<secpapers (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]>; <vulnwatch (at) vulnwatch (dot) org [email concealed]>;
<vulndiscuss (at) vulnwatch (dot) org [email concealed]>; <full-disclosure (at) netsys (dot) com [email concealed]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:03:20PM -0700, Nicholas Weaver wrote:
> > So who cares? Why juggle when shelves hold so much more?
>
> Just because you and I don't have a use for this doesn't make it useless.
>
> This technique has one advantage that I can see being very useful -- it is
> easy to delete large amounts of data quickly. Imagine you hear the feds
> knocking on your door -- you just unplug your fiber, and let all the light
> (aka your data) fly out into the room. Your data is gone, permanently.
> If the latency is a minute, then it only takes a minute to delete
everything
> -- all 6.5 GB of data according to your calculations. Show me another
> method that can delete 6.5 GB a data in a completely unrecoverable manner
> that quickly. Hard drives need to be overwritten many times, but even
then
> they can still likely be recovered with enough money put toward it.
>
> Rick
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