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RE: Dell BIOS DoS Dec 09 2003 07:06PM
David Brodbeck (DavidB mail interclean com) (3 replies)
Re: Dell BIOS DoS Dec 09 2003 10:50PM
Jim Paris (jim jtan com)
Re: Dell BIOS DoS Dec 09 2003 08:02PM
Craig Paterson (craigp tippett com) (2 replies)
Re: Dell BIOS DoS Dec 10 2003 01:50AM
Eric Anderson (anderson cs uoregon edu)
RE: Dell BIOS DoS Dec 10 2003 01:25AM
Lyal Collins (lyalc ozemail com au)
Not sure that the sentiments below are 100% correct - see Ross Andersons
papers on logical and API attacks upon tamper resistant hardware,
faciltated by physical (or near physical) access to the hardware.

If you can do it in software, you can break it in software.

Lyal

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Paterson [mailto:craigp (at) tippett (dot) com [email concealed]]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2003 7:03 AM
To: David Brodbeck
Cc: 'jon schatz'; bugtraq (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
Subject: Re: Dell BIOS DoS

David Brodbeck wrote:

>There is no such thing as security from someone who has physical access
to
>the hardware.
>

Alright, so this is a tangent, but: that is what encryption is for. The
whole basis of encryption assumes that the attacker has access to the
message (your data), but that without the appropriate keys you can't
usefully access it. No, this doesn't have much to do with the value or
otherwise of BIOS passwords, but it's often stated that physical access
renders all your data wide open, which isn't necessarily the case.

Craig.

[ reply ]
Re: Dell BIOS DoS Dec 09 2003 07:43PM
Alexandros Papadopoulos (apapadop cmu edu)


 

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