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Hijacking Apache 2 via mod_perl Jan 21 2004 10:53PM Steve Grubb (linux_4ever yahoo com) (2 replies) Re: Hijacking Apache 2 via mod_perl Jan 22 2004 03:53PM Ben Laurie (ben algroup co uk) (1 replies) Re[2]: Hijacking Apache 2 via mod_perl Jan 22 2004 05:37PM 3APA3A (3APA3A SECURITY NNOV RU) (3 replies) Re: Hijacking Apache 2 via mod_perl Jan 22 2004 05:42PM André Malo (nd perlig de) (1 replies) Re: Hijacking Apache 2 via mod_perl Jan 22 2004 06:04PM Steve G (linux_4ever yahoo com) (2 replies) Re: Hijacking Apache 2 via mod_perl Jan 23 2004 09:39PM Matthew Wakeling (mnw21-bugtraq jumpleads com) |
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> Dear Ben Laurie,
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> --Thursday, January 22, 2004, 6:53:01 PM, you wrote to linux_4ever (at) yahoo (dot) com [email concealed]:
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> BL> This is not a leak - mod_perl is a module that is compiled into Apache,
> BL> and hence has access to all its resources (including memory). If you
> BL> want to run untrusted Perl, then don't use mod_perl.
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> You're right: mod_perl is inside apache memory space and can access any
> descriptor, so it's impossible to blame apache descriptor is leaked. But
> you're wrong. mod_perl has access to memory, not perl script. At least,
> it's possible to store descriptors table and implement check for
> descriptor in every perl file/socket function inside mod_perl (and
> mod_php and mod_something) and only allow access to std descriptors and
> to descriptors open inside same script. The choice is between speed and
> security.
OK, you _might_ be able to do this (but I'll bet you five beers you'll
never make Perl secure enough to avoid circumvention), and I doubt it'd
even noticably impact speed. This is not something Apache can fix, though.
Cheers,
Ben.
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