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http://www.smashguard.org Jan 30 2004 11:34PM
Hilmi Ozdoganoglu (cyprian purdue edu) (2 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 04 2004 05:26AM
Leon Harris (leon quoll com) (1 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 05 2004 06:06PM
Seth Arnold (sarnold wirex com)
RE: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 03 2004 12:36PM
Dave Paris (dparis w3works com) (2 replies)
RE: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 06 2004 08:29PM
Hilmi Ozdoganoglu (cyprian purdue edu) (3 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 07 2004 11:44PM
Crispin Cowan (crispin immunix com) (2 replies)
Hilmi Ozdoganoglu wrote:

> Agreed, the software based approach does not take a significant
>performance hit, but the hardware approach is transparent to the user
>and does not require recompilation of the source code. Therefore, all
>programs can run securely on a machine whether or not they are "compiled
>securely" (e.g. legacy software).
>
Utter nonsense. Legacy software has to be recompiled to use the new CPU
instruction set. A new CPU architecture is vastly *more* intrusive than
a new compiler.

>The idea is not to create "custom CPUs" but to have our modification
>picked up by major vendors. Clearly there is interest in applying
>hardware to solve security issues based on the latest press releases
>from AMD that AMD chips include buffer-overflow protection (see
>Computer World, January 15, 2004).
>
As Theo said, the AMD buffer overflow "protection" is nothing more than
sensible separation of R and X bits per page, fixing a glaring and
anomalous defect in the original 386 MMU. Many CPUs before and since had
this feature, and it was just Intel slop in the early 1980s that
developed an MMU (and associated instruction set) that mistakenly
treated R and X per page as one bit.

Crispin

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Re: http://www.smashguard.org Apr 29 2004 09:55PM
Pavel Machek (pavel ucw cz) (3 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org May 01 2004 01:56AM
Coleman Kane (cokane cokane org)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org May 01 2004 12:45AM
Theo de Raadt (deraadt cvs openbsd org)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Apr 29 2004 11:24PM
Crispin Cowan (crispin immunix com) (2 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org May 01 2004 12:28AM
Theo de Raadt (deraadt cvs openbsd org)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Apr 29 2004 11:29PM
Pavel Machek (pavel ucw cz) (1 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org May 01 2004 02:12AM
Nicholas Weaver (nweaver CS berkeley edu)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 10 2004 12:04AM
Theo de Raadt (deraadt cvs openbsd org)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 07 2004 06:11PM
Nicholas Weaver (nweaver CS berkeley edu)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 07 2004 03:27PM
Theo de Raadt (deraadt cvs openbsd org) (1 replies)
Re[2]: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 07 2004 08:58PM
Andrey Kolishak (andr sandy ru)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 03 2004 07:01PM
Nicholas Weaver (nweaver CS berkeley edu)


 

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