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http://www.smashguard.org Jan 30 2004 11:34PM
Hilmi Ozdoganoglu (cyprian purdue edu) (2 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 04 2004 05:26AM
Leon Harris (leon quoll com) (1 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 05 2004 06:06PM
Seth Arnold (sarnold wirex com)
RE: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 03 2004 12:36PM
Dave Paris (dparis w3works com) (2 replies)
RE: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 06 2004 08:29PM
Hilmi Ozdoganoglu (cyprian purdue edu) (3 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 07 2004 11:44PM
Crispin Cowan (crispin immunix com) (2 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Apr 29 2004 09:55PM
Pavel Machek (pavel ucw cz) (3 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org May 01 2004 01:56AM
Coleman Kane (cokane cokane org)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org May 01 2004 12:45AM
Theo de Raadt (deraadt cvs openbsd org)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Apr 29 2004 11:24PM
Crispin Cowan (crispin immunix com) (2 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org May 01 2004 12:28AM
Theo de Raadt (deraadt cvs openbsd org)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Apr 29 2004 11:29PM
Pavel Machek (pavel ucw cz) (1 replies)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org May 01 2004 02:12AM
Nicholas Weaver (nweaver CS berkeley edu)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 10 2004 12:04AM
Theo de Raadt (deraadt cvs openbsd org)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 07 2004 06:11PM
Nicholas Weaver (nweaver CS berkeley edu)
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 03:29:30PM -0500, Hilmi Ozdoganoglu composed:
>
> Agreed, the software based approach does not take a significant
> performance hit, but the hardware approach is transparent to the user
> and does not require recompilation of the source code. Therefore, all
> programs can run securely on a machine whether or not they are "compiled
> securely" (e.g. legacy software).

Not all control flow follows stack logic. So you can't claim
backwards compatibility on all programs.

What happens if you are compiling continuations, such as a
high-performance ML or scheme environment?

A scheme environment may often need to keep around call-stacks after
they are exited, because call-with-current-continuation can cause them
to be reentered again.

Similarly, you mention the problem with user-land threads, yet
specifically don't solve it (just handwave it a bit).

Likewise, what happens on table-blowout? You are using fixed-sized
tables, what happens when they fill up (and they WILL fill up.
Resources in a CPU should be 0, 1, or infinite, at least from the
user's point of view).

--
Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver (at) cs.berkeley (dot) edu [email concealed]

[ reply ]
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 07 2004 03:27PM
Theo de Raadt (deraadt cvs openbsd org) (1 replies)
Re[2]: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 07 2004 08:58PM
Andrey Kolishak (andr sandy ru)
Re: http://www.smashguard.org Feb 03 2004 07:01PM
Nicholas Weaver (nweaver CS berkeley edu)


 

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