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Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 16 2004 11:26AM
R Armiento (rar_bt armiento se) (7 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 06:55PM
Gadi Evron (ge linuxbox org)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 05:27PM
Joel Eriksson (je-secfocus bitnux com) (3 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 18 2004 08:57PM
Jason Coombs (jasonc science org)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 18 2004 06:52PM
PSE-L mail professional org (Sean Straw / PSE)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 18 2004 06:51PM
Bill Burge (bill burge com)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 05:04PM
krispykringle gentoo org
RE: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 02:18PM
Aaron Cake (aaron vltpm com) (1 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 21 2004 01:23PM
Chris Brown (chris wavetex com)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 11:28AM
David F. Skoll (dfs roaringpenguin com) (4 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 22 2004 02:20PM
Martin Maèok (martin macok underground cz) (2 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 23 2004 12:53AM
David F. Skoll (dfs roaringpenguin com) (2 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 23 2004 10:46PM
der Mouse (mouse Rodents Montreal QC CA)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 23 2004 09:48PM
PSE-L mail professional org (Sean Straw / PSE) (2 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 25 2004 07:49PM
der Mouse (mouse Rodents Montreal QC CA)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 25 2004 05:35PM
Seth Breidbart (sethb panix com)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 20 2004 01:52PM
Luca Berra (bluca comedia it) (3 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 24 2004 08:32PM
Michael A. Dickerson (mikey singingtree com)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 24 2004 07:19AM
Valdis Kletnieks vt edu
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 23 2004 05:07PM
PSE-L mail professional org (Sean Straw / PSE) (2 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 24 2004 07:42PM
The Fungi (fungi yuggoth org)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 24 2004 05:44PM
John Fitzgibbon (bugtraq jfitz com) (1 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 25 2004 05:08AM
PSE-L mail professional org (Sean Straw / PSE)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 19 2004 02:56PM
Kyle Wheeler (kyle-bugtraq memoryhole net)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 19 2004 12:49AM
Jon Fiedler (jmf9 cwru edu) (1 replies)
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 19 2004 01:29AM
David F. Skoll (dfs roaringpenguin com)
RE: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 08:26AM
Hamlesh Motah (admin hamlesh com)
Interesting insight that, in most cases I'd think B and C are likely to be
on the same network, possibly protected by the same spam filtering, meaning
that A's email wouldn't reach B. I know this isn't always the case, just my
thoughts on it.

The above would help reduce the probability of finding a scenario where this
would work, that said securing against social engineering attacks is a tad
challenging :)

Again all of the above just my two cents.

Kind regards.

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: -----Original Message-----
: From: R Armiento [mailto:rar_bt (at) armiento (dot) se [email concealed]]
: Sent: 16 June 2004 11:26
: To: bugtraq (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
: Subject: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability?
:
:
:
: During a recent email conversation with several participants,
: we discovered that the email service of one participant
: silently dropped legitimate emails that happened to contain
: certain combinations of words common in spam. I believe this
: sort of filter is common practice, and in fact even in place
: for some of my own email addresses.
:
: However, this experience made me think: isn't predictable
: spam filtering in general a vulnerability that could be used
: as a hoax device? Since most users reply to an email citing
: the complete source email, including filter-offending words,
: it should be possible to keep a reply, forward, or even a
: whole thread, under the radar of specific recipients. If used
: in combination with forged replies from addresses predictably
: dropping emails, I think this may be a dangerous tool for
: social engineering.
:
: For example: attacker 'A' sends 'B' a social engineering
: request for "the secret plans" and says "if you are unsure,
: forward my request to your boss and ask if this is okay". 'B'
: forwards the email to his boss 'C' and asks "Is this okay?".
: However, 'C':s spam filter silently drops the email. 'A'
: forges a reply from 'C' saying: "Sure, no problem, go ahead."
:
: Regards,
: R. Armiento
:

[ reply ]
Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 08:21AM
Ilya Sher (ilya79 actcom net il)


 

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