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BugTraq
Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 16 2004 11:26AM R Armiento (rar_bt armiento se) (7 replies) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 05:27PM Joel Eriksson (je-secfocus bitnux com) (3 replies) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 18 2004 08:57PM Jason Coombs (jasonc science org) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 18 2004 06:52PM PSE-L mail professional org (Sean Straw / PSE) RE: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 02:18PM Aaron Cake (aaron vltpm com) (1 replies) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 21 2004 01:23PM Chris Brown (chris wavetex com) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 11:28AM David F. Skoll (dfs roaringpenguin com) (4 replies) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 22 2004 02:20PM Martin Maèok (martin macok underground cz) (2 replies) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 24 2004 07:15AM Valdis Kletnieks vt edu Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 23 2004 12:53AM David F. Skoll (dfs roaringpenguin com) (2 replies) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 23 2004 10:46PM der Mouse (mouse Rodents Montreal QC CA) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 23 2004 09:48PM PSE-L mail professional org (Sean Straw / PSE) (2 replies) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 25 2004 07:49PM der Mouse (mouse Rodents Montreal QC CA) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? (silently dropping messages) Jun 25 2004 05:35PM Seth Breidbart (sethb panix com) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 19 2004 02:56PM Kyle Wheeler (kyle-bugtraq memoryhole net) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 19 2004 12:49AM Jon Fiedler (jmf9 cwru edu) (1 replies) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 19 2004 01:29AM David F. Skoll (dfs roaringpenguin com) RE: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 08:26AM Hamlesh Motah (admin hamlesh com) Re: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability? Jun 17 2004 08:21AM Ilya Sher (ilya79 actcom net il) |
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>On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, R Armiento wrote:
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>> However, 'C':s spam filter silently drops the email.
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>In my opinion, any spam filter that silently drops e-mail is broken, and
>is indeed a security risk. A spam filter MUST respond with a 500 SMTP
>failure code if it rejects a message.
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David,
the problem with your proposed behaviour is the fact that to be able to
respond with 5xx in the smtp transaction would require the spam filter
to analyze content on the fly.
This is a very resource intensive operation and usually people triyng
this approach will DOS themselves.
The most common approach for spam (content) filters is to queue messages
and process them later, in this case the filter MUST NOT generate a NDN,
since there is no way to guarantee that the envelope sender is not
faked.
I hold that after suitable training of the spam filter (this includes
generation of whitelists and such), dropping mail into oblivion is
perfectly safe.
I am speaking of serious spam filters, not regexps that match random
words in the meddage contents.
Regards,
L.
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