BugTraq
Secure Science issues preview of their upcoming block cipher Mar 24 2005 01:00AM
BugTraq (bugtraq securescience net) (1 replies)
Re: Secure Science issues preview of their upcoming block cipher Mar 25 2005 12:15AM
Adam Shostack (adam homeport org) (3 replies)
Re: Secure Science issues preview of their upcoming block cipher Mar 25 2005 09:02PM
devnull Rodents Montreal QC CA
Re: Secure Science issues preview of their upcoming block cipher Mar 25 2005 04:43PM
David Covin (dcovin nmr mgh harvard edu)
Re: Secure Science issues preview of their upcoming block cipher Mar 25 2005 04:25PM
Jerrold Leichter (jerrold leichter smarts com) (1 replies)
| Really? How does one go about proving the security of a block cipher?
They don't claim that:

This cipher is ... provably just as secure as AES-128.

I can come up with a cipher provably just as secure as AES-128 very quickly....

(Actually, based on the paper a while back on many alternative ways to
formulate AES - it had a catchy title something like "How Many Ways Can You
Spell AES?", except that I can't find one like that now - one could even
come up with a formulation that is (a) probably as secure as AES-128; (b)
actually faster in hardware or simpler to implement or whatever...)

-- Jerry :-)

| My understanding is that you, and others, perform attacks against it,
| and see how it holds up. Many of the very best minds out there
| attacked AES, so for your new CS2 cipher to be "provably just as
| secure as AES-128," all those people would have had to have spent as
| much time and energy as they did on AES. That strikes me as unlikely,
| there's a lot more interest in hash functions today.
|
| Adam
|
| PS: I've added the cryptography mail list to this. Some of the folks
| over there may be interested in your claims.
|
| On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 05:00:25PM -0800, BugTraq wrote:
| | Secure Science is offering a preview of one of the 3 ciphers they will
| | be publishing througout the year. The CS2-128 cipher is a 128-bit block
| | cipher with a 128 bit key. This cipher is proposed as an alternative
| | hardware-based cipher to AES, being that it is more efficient in
| | hardware, simpler to implement, and provably just as secure as AES-128.
| |
| | http://www.securescience.net/ciphers/csc2/
| |
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Re: Secure Science issues preview of their upcoming block cipher Mar 25 2005 05:23PM
Ralf-Philipp Weinmann (weinmann cdc informatik tu-darmstadt de)


 

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