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Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 20 2005 04:50PM
Stephen Frost (sfrost snowman net) (2 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 20 2005 09:03PM
Tom Lane (tgl sss pgh pa us) (1 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 20 2005 09:23PM
Jim C. Nasby (decibel decibel org) (4 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 04:50PM
Joshua D. Drake (jd commandprompt com) (2 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 07:48PM
Lance James (lancej securescience net)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 06:05PM
Stephen Frost (sfrost snowman net)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encryptedpasswords Apr 21 2005 09:06AM
Tino Wildenhain (tino wildenhain de) (1 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted Apr 21 2005 01:32PM
Rod Taylor (pg rbt ca) (2 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted Apr 22 2005 03:33AM
Michael Samuel (michael miknet net)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted Apr 21 2005 01:47PM
Tino Wildenhain (tino wildenhain de)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 02:58AM
Jim Knoble (jmknoble pobox com) (1 replies)
RE: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 07:25PM
Mike Fratto (mfratto nwc com) (2 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 09:14PM
Jim Knoble (jmknoble pobox com)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 08:50PM
Stephen Frost (sfrost snowman net) (1 replies)
RE: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 09:14PM
Mike Fratto (mfratto nwc com) (1 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 09:33PM
Stephen Frost (sfrost snowman net) (1 replies)
RE: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 09:57PM
Mike Fratto (mfratto nwc com)

> That's the whole point of the discussion- the way Postgres's
> pg_shadow stuff works the salt is known and *because* of that
> it might as well not exist since it means that you can
> pre-compute the keyspace.

I see your point. I don't know anything about postgres. I don't use it. But
if someone can get to the pg_hba.conf file (I assume (hope) it is read/write
by the process owner or root only?) then your screwed anyway. So while there
may be better ways to store and use passwords, perhaps in light of the root
of the problem (getting to the file) the fore-knowledge of a salt isn't that
important. If an admin created a "strong" password (whatever that means),
then pre-computation won't help an attacker get it. At worst for the admon,
pre-computation will shorten the attackers time to know if the password can
be broken or not. At best it might slow them down a bit (but not really).

I dunno.

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Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 20 2005 10:03PM
Tom Lane (tgl sss pgh pa us) (3 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 02:27AM
Stephen Frost (sfrost snowman net) (1 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 10:27PM
Bruno Wolff III (bruno wolff to) (2 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encryptedpasswords Apr 22 2005 08:02PM
Antoine Martin (antoine nagafix co uk) (1 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted Apr 23 2005 01:02PM
Stephen Frost (sfrost snowman net) (1 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted Apr 23 2005 02:53PM
Antoine Martin (antoine nagafix co uk)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 22 2005 12:05AM
Stephen Frost (sfrost snowman net)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 20 2005 10:10PM
Bruce Momjian (pgman candle pha pa us) (1 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 20 2005 10:17PM
Tom Lane (tgl sss pgh pa us) (1 replies)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 21 2005 12:26AM
David F. Skoll (dfs roaringpenguin com)
Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 20 2005 10:08PM
Jim C. Nasby (decibel decibel org)
Re: Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 20 2005 07:36PM
David F. Skoll (dfs roaringpenguin com) (1 replies)
Re: Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords Apr 20 2005 07:44PM
Stephen Frost (sfrost snowman net)


 

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