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Strengthen OpenSSH security? Apr 18 2006 04:31AM
Brett Glass (brett lariat org) (6 replies)
Re: Strengthen OpenSSH security? Apr 20 2006 11:47AM
c0redump ackers org uk
Hi.

Previous versions of OpenSSH were vulnerable to timing attacks. I'm not
aware of what version you're running but I'd put my money on that. I too
watch the kiddies attempting brute force attempts on our SSHD, however, up
until now, these have been pretty dumb tools based on a word list as far as
I can see.

http://www.security.nnov.ru/docs4475.html may be of some interest to you,
also, google "OpenSSH timing attacks".

- c0redump

----- Original Message -----
From: Brett Glass
To: bugtraq (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:31 AM
Subject: Strengthen OpenSSH security?

I'm sure that most folks with hosts that expose an OpenSSH daemon
to the Internet have been getting the usual probes and password
guessing attempts and have been taking appropriate actions (e.g.
setting AllowUsers and using strong passwords) to protect
yourselves. But today, on one of my servers, I noticed a new trend:
the attackers are getting smarter. Apparently, they can tell the
difference between a user ID which is not named in an AllowUsers
directive -- or which does not exist at all -- from one for which
they just haven't guessed the correct password. I've now watched as
some attackers (but not all... yet) tried various user IDs, noted
which ones existed and were in AllowUsers, and focused password
guessing attacks on just those user IDs.

It seems to me that sshd should not tip its hand by returning
different responses when a user ID can be used for logins than when
it can't -- allowing an attacker to focus password guessing attacks
on user IDs with which it would have a chance of gaining access.
For those folks out there who are more familiar with OpenSSH than I
am: How hard would it be to make the responses indistinguishable?

--Brett Glass

[ reply ]
Re: Strengthen OpenSSH security? Apr 20 2006 05:13AM
Damien Miller (djm mindrot org)
Re: Strengthen OpenSSH security? Apr 20 2006 04:33AM
MaddHatter maddhatt+bugtraq (at) cat.pdx (dot) edu [email concealed] (maddhatt+bugtraq cat pdx edu)
Re: Strengthen OpenSSH security? Apr 20 2006 04:03AM
Kd (kilrathi gmail com)
Re: Strengthen OpenSSH security? Apr 20 2006 03:28AM
Carson Gaspar (carson taltos org) (1 replies)
Re: Strengthen OpenSSH security? Apr 21 2006 01:15AM
Theo de Raadt (deraadt cvs openbsd org)
Re: Strengthen OpenSSH security? Apr 20 2006 03:21AM
Mike Hoskins (mhoskins e2open com)


 

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