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PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 16 2006 11:21AM
Darren Reed (avalon caligula anu edu au) (4 replies)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 22 2006 12:15PM
john mullee (jmullee yahoo com) (1 replies)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 24 2006 10:42PM
Darren Reed (avalon caligula anu edu au) (2 replies)
In some mail from john mullee, sie said:
>
> --- Darren Reed <avalon (at) caligula.anu.edu (dot) au [email concealed]> wrote:
> > From my own mail archives, PHP appears to make up at least 4%
> > of the email to bugtraq I see - or over 1000 issues since 1995,
> > out of the 25,000 I have saved.
> >
> > People complain about applications like sendmail...in the same
> > period, it has been resopnsible for less than 200.
> >
> > Do we have a new contender for worst security offender ever
> > written ?
>
> I guess most of the remaining offending apps were written in C: as much as 96% ?!!
> (including basically all of microsoft's stuff!!)
>
> Surely the least secure language of all time !!!
>
> Note also that no vulnerable apps were written in:
> - cobol, rpg3, prolog, ada, scheme, lisp, pl/1, occam, modula-2, or MIX

But in the 1990s, Java was created.

Java applications exist.

Java servlets and applets also exist.

There have barely a *handful* of JRE/JVM security problems.

So the point of this is to say that new, modern, development
languages that are secure can be and are being developed and
used. That PHP is relatively new with respect to computing
and has so many security problems should be an embaressment
to its developers and users.

Or to put it another way, if there are so many security
problems with PHP then the PHP development model or use model
needs to be seriously reconsidered and redeveloped such that
it is immune to such security issues. This may, of course,
mean throwing away PHP and starting over (see C/C++ -> Java).

Oh, and btw, you forgot to mention fortran.

Darren

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Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 27 2006 05:47AM
Tonnerre Lombard (tonnerre lombard sygroup ch) (1 replies)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 27 2006 10:27AM
Darren Reed (avalon caligula anu edu au)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 27 2006 03:38AM
Ronald Chmara (ron Opus1 COM) (1 replies)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jul 05 2006 04:17PM
Dan Falconer (dan avsupport com) (1 replies)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jul 06 2006 06:47AM
Darren Reed (avalon caligula anu edu au)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 19 2006 05:07PM
Neil Neely (neil frii com) (1 replies)
RE: [lists] Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jul 16 2006 11:26PM
Curt Purdy (purdy tecman com)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 17 2006 01:50AM
Jose Nazario (jose monkey org) (1 replies)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 17 2006 06:06PM
Geo. (geoincidents nls net) (2 replies)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 22 2006 01:01AM
Crispin Cowan (crispin novell com)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 20 2006 04:54AM
kicktd (cooljay1804ml bellsouth net) (1 replies)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 20 2006 10:02AM
Geo. (geoincidents nls net)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 16 2006 11:06PM
Bojan Zdrnja (bojan zdrnja gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: PHP security (or the lack thereof) Jun 17 2006 05:08PM
Jessica Hope (jessicasaulhope googlemail com)


 

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