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new linux malware Feb 18 2006 10:40PM Gadi Evron (ge linuxbox org) (2 replies) Re: new linux malware Feb 20 2006 04:57PM Christine Kronberg (Christine_Kronberg genua de) (1 replies) PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Feb 20 2006 08:22PM Gadi Evron (ge linuxbox org) (2 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Dec 30 2006 10:00PM Kevin Waterson (kevin oceania net) (1 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Jan 01 2007 05:53PM Bill Nash (billn billn net) (1 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Jan 01 2007 09:00PM Tino Wildenhain (tino wildenhain de) (1 replies) RE: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Jan 01 2007 09:31PM Jim Harrison (Jim isatools org) (1 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Jan 01 2007 10:37PM Dana Hudes (dhudes hudes org) (1 replies) RE: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Jan 02 2007 12:02AM Jim Harrison (Jim isatools org) (2 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? Jan 02 2007 12:01PM Duncan Simpson (dps simpson demon co uk) (1 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Feb 22 2006 10:48AM Kevin Waterson (kevin oceania net) (2 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Feb 24 2006 09:13PM Matthew Schiros (schiros gmail com) (1 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Feb 27 2006 03:26PM L. Adrian Griffis (agriffis dstsystems com) (1 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Feb 27 2006 03:50PM Matthew Schiros (schiros gmail com) (1 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Feb 27 2006 04:21PM L. Adrian Griffis (agriffis dstsystems com) (1 replies) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Feb 27 2006 05:55PM Matthew Schiros (schiros gmail com) Re: PHP as a secure language? PHP worms? [was: Re: new linux malware] Feb 24 2006 09:07PM Jamie Riden (jamie riden gmail com) Re: new linux malware Feb 20 2006 04:24PM Marco Monicelli (marco monicelli marcegaglia com) (1 replies) |
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> ..and similar statements can be made for Basic (pickyourflavor) as well.
> This argument proves my point that there is no such thing as a truly
> "secure" language; it's entirely dependent on the dev skills.
I disagree. But then the above could be taken to be just flame-bait.
In functional programming languages (think 4GLs like prolog), rather
than functional programming languages (2 and 3GL - C/Pascal/perl/etc),
the ability of a programmer to do something that exposes a security
problem is greatly diminished (if we exclude "shell escapes", etc.)
Where do 9 out of 10 security problems with applications arise from?
Dealing poorly with externally supplied input.
This is the crux of nearly *all* PHP security bugs.
Maybe our problem is that PHP, perl, etc, are all built on top of C
and in such a manner that the origin and trustworthiness of data is
lost and can no longer be delt with in an appropriate fashion.
So maybe there isn't a "secure" functional language yet but I can't
see why we can't develop one.
Darren
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