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Re: COSEINC Linux Advisory #1: Linux Kernel Parent Process Death Signal Vulnerability Aug 16 2007 01:17PM
Dan Yefimov (dan ns15 lightwave net ru) (1 replies)
Re: COSEINC Linux Advisory #1: Linux Kernel Parent Process Death Signal Vulnerability Aug 16 2007 07:37PM
Glynn Clements (glynn gclements plus com) (1 replies)
Re: COSEINC Linux Advisory #1: Linux Kernel Parent Process Death Signal Vulnerability Aug 17 2007 01:27AM
Dan Yefimov (dan ns15 lightwave net ru) (2 replies)
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Glynn Clements wrote:

> However, the bug in question allows sending signals which cannot be
> blocked or ignored (SIGKILL, SIGSTOP). Moreover, the cause (PDEATHSIG)
> cannot be disabled
>
Really? An what if we fork right after startup and perform operations as a
child?

> SIGKILL and SIGSTOP cannot be blocked, handled or ignored.

As for SIGKILL, I again repeat that the program must operate in a fail safe way
when that makes sense.

BTW, SIGKILL and SIGSTOP can be issued by an O_ASYNC file I/O also (look in
fcntl(2) at F_SETSIG section). If you use F_SETSIG for sending SIGKILL or
SIGSTOP, there's nothing to be done with that - that behaviour is well
documented and setuid root program must know which file descriptor should be
closed to prevent that, which is of course not possible. The only cure here is
closing every file descriptor above 2, but that is still insufficient, since
fcntl() might be issued on file descriptors from 0 to 2.

> Signals
> which don't terminate the process may still have undesirable
> consequences, e.g. use of SIGUSR1 as a secure signalling mechanism (at
> least, it's supposed to be secure).
>
Supposed by whom and why? Where is the guarantee? As I said previously,
arbitrary signal can be issued in a couple of ways.

> There's more risk if a program uses signals (e.g. SIGUSR1) for remote
> control.
>
AFAIK, nobody normal does that - results are unpredictable. Much more often
FIFOS and sockets are used for that.

> > Really? Let's consider the following scenario. You write an analogue of
> > /bin/passwd. Here you make a temporary copy of /etc/shadow, hard link
> > /etc/shadow to /etc/shadow- pre-removing existing /etc/shadow- if that exists,
>
> That interferes with any existing passwd invocation.
>
Probably. But the data will still be in a consistent state. I just proposed an
idea without much details.

> Sending asynchronous signals to setuid/setgid children is supposed to
> be impossible, and that restriction is considered a security
> mechanism.
>
And this IS generally impossible. Once spawned setuid root binary that will
send a signal while dying, you have no control over the moment the signal is
being sent at. The exploitation scenario for this bug is a bit artificial.
--

Sincerely Your, Dan.

[ reply ]
Re: COSEINC Linux Advisory #1: Linux Kernel Parent Process DeathSignal Vulnerability Aug 17 2007 08:20PM
Nicolas Rachinsky (bugtraq-0 ml turing-complete org)
Re: COSEINC Linux Advisory #1: Linux Kernel Parent Process Death Signal Vulnerability Aug 17 2007 01:37PM
Glynn Clements (glynn gclements plus com)


 

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