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0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 20 2007 01:21PM
pdp (architect) (pdp gnucitizen googlemail com) (3 replies)
Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 21 2007 07:53PM
Thierry Zoller (Thierry Zoller lu) (2 replies)
Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 21 2007 09:21PM
Aaron Collins (collinsa ehawaii gov)
Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 21 2007 09:21PM
Kevin Finisterre (lists) (kf_lists digitalmunition com)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 20 2007 04:55PM
Aditya K Sood (zeroknock secniche org)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 20 2007 03:29PM
Gadi Evron (ge linuxbox org) (1 replies)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 20 2007 11:16PM
Crispin Cowan (crispin novell com) (2 replies)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 23 2007 05:34AM
Crispin Cowan (crispin novell com) (2 replies)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 25 2007 04:15PM
Iggy E (iggy_e yahoo com)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 23 2007 11:52PM
Chad Perrin (perrin apotheon com) (2 replies)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 24 2007 10:57PM
Lamont Granquist (lamont scriptkiddie org) (1 replies)


On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, Chad Perrin wrote:
> In the case of that "private zero day exploit", then, nobody will ever
> know about it except the person that has it waiting in reserve -- and if
> someone else discovers and patches the vulnerability before the exploit
> is ever used, it never becomes a "public" zero day exploit. In other
> words, you can always posit that there's sort of a Heisenbergian state of
> potential private zero day exploitedness, but in real, practical terms
> there's no zero day anything unless it's public.
>
> The moment you have an opportunity to measure it, the waveforms collapse.

The exploit is not made public by its use. The exploit is not even made
public by (back-channel) sharing amongst the hacker/cracker community.
The exploit is only made public if detected or the vulnerability is
disclosed. Until detected/disclosed the hacker/cracker can use their
31337 0day spl01tz to break into whichever vulnerable machines they like.
0day exploits are valuable because the opposition is ignorant of them.

Posting exploits to BUGTRAQ, however, inherently makes them not 0day...

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Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 25 2007 05:57PM
Roland Kuhn (rkuhn e18 physik tu-muenchen de) (1 replies)
RE: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 25 2007 06:39PM
Thor (Hammer of God) (thor hammerofgod com) (2 replies)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 25 2007 09:03PM
Steve Shockley (steve shockley shockley net)
defining 0day Sep 25 2007 07:02PM
Gadi Evron (ge linuxbox org) (3 replies)
RE: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 09:20PM
David Gillett (gillettdavid fhda edu)
Re: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 08:40PM
Charles Miller (cmiller pastiche org) (2 replies)
Re: defining 0day Sep 26 2007 11:25PM
Zow Terry Brugger (zow llnl gov) (1 replies)
Re: defining 0day Sep 26 2007 11:10PM
Chad Perrin (perrin apotheon com) (1 replies)
RE: defining 0day Sep 28 2007 12:20AM
Marvin Simkin (Marvin Simkin asu edu) (1 replies)
Re: defining 0day Sep 27 2007 06:34PM
Chad Perrin (perrin apotheon com)
Re: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 08:57PM
Gadi Evron (ge linuxbox org)
Re: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 07:51PM
Brian Loe (knobdy gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 07:59PM
Gadi Evron (ge linuxbox org) (1 replies)
Re: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 08:15PM
Brian Loe (knobdy gmail com) (1 replies)
Re: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 08:37PM
Adrian Griffis (adriang63 gmail com) (2 replies)
Re: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 09:05PM
Andrew Weaver (aweaver ee net)
Re: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 08:54PM
Brian Loe (knobdy gmail com)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 24 2007 09:59PM
Crispin Cowan (crispin novell com) (1 replies)
Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 25 2007 01:39PM
J. Oquendo (sil infiltrated net)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 21 2007 06:34PM
Casper Dik Sun COM (1 replies)
Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 21 2007 07:24PM
J. Oquendo (sil infiltrated net)


 

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