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0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 20 2007 01:21PM pdp (architect) (pdp gnucitizen googlemail com) (3 replies) Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 21 2007 07:53PM Thierry Zoller (Thierry Zoller lu) (2 replies) Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 21 2007 09:21PM Aaron Collins (collinsa ehawaii gov) Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 21 2007 09:21PM Kevin Finisterre (lists) (kf_lists digitalmunition com) Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 20 2007 03:29PM Gadi Evron (ge linuxbox org) (1 replies) Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 20 2007 11:16PM Crispin Cowan (crispin novell com) (2 replies) Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 23 2007 05:34AM Crispin Cowan (crispin novell com) (2 replies) Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 23 2007 11:52PM Chad Perrin (perrin apotheon com) (2 replies) Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 24 2007 10:57PM Lamont Granquist (lamont scriptkiddie org) (1 replies) Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 25 2007 05:57PM Roland Kuhn (rkuhn e18 physik tu-muenchen de) (1 replies) RE: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Sep 25 2007 06:39PM Thor (Hammer of God) (thor hammerofgod com) (2 replies) defining 0day Sep 25 2007 07:02PM Gadi Evron (ge linuxbox org) (3 replies) Re: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 08:40PM Charles Miller (cmiller pastiche org) (2 replies) Re: defining 0day Sep 26 2007 11:25PM Zow Terry Brugger (zow llnl gov) (1 replies) Re: defining 0day Sep 26 2007 11:10PM Chad Perrin (perrin apotheon com) (1 replies) Re: defining 0day Sep 25 2007 07:51PM Brian Loe (knobdy gmail com) (1 replies) |
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> On 9/25/07, Gadi Evron <ge (at) linuxbox (dot) org [email concealed]> wrote:
> > No longer good enough.
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> > We can get a press scare over a public vuln release, or a wake-up call.
> >
> > I think we can do better as an industry.
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> Who, then, rewrites all of the reference material? And doesn't any new
> definition simply become definition number 2 in Webster?
>
> Is it really the definition that is lacking or is the use of the word
> at issue? Seems to me, from the beginning of this debate, that its the
> usage. Far easier to reform the "zero day process" (disclosure, etc.)
> than to redefine the term "zero day". The term is owned by the public,
> the process is owned by those who follow it, the industry.
I understand why this descriptivist approach is tempting over a
prescriptivist approach. But it's important, I think, to keep in mind
that the public uses the word "illegal" when they really mean
"unlawful" and uses the word "Schizophrenic" when they are talking
about multiple personality disorders. All technical fields have their
jargon, and the general public is simply not well educated enough
about the issues involved to arbitrate disputes over usage. Just as
the legal profession needs the word "illegal" with its proper meaning,
we also need our jargon to facilitate precise discussions about
security matters. The public can't always be the source of our
definitions.
Adrian
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